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Имя, сестра!

Назовите три имени наших современников, которые у вас в первую очередь ассоциируются с астрономией в исключительно положительном (и не ироничном смысле). Это могут быть ученые, популяризаторы. Но не только, важно - говорящие по-русски.

P.S. Меня не интересует упоминание моего имени. Опрос не про это.

P.P.S. Спасибо за ответы. Во многом было неожиданно, но поучительно.

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flying_bear
Mar. 21st, 2017 08:28 am (UTC)
Муханов, Сюняев, Новиков (последний писал великолепные популярные книги, кстати сказать).
pbi20
Mar. 22nd, 2017 06:45 pm (UTC)
It's interesting to learn what actually Mukhanov has done?
pbi20
Mar. 25th, 2017 07:59 pm (UTC)
Hi Serega, thanks for this. But, you see there are some papers of Lukash
on the gauge invariant theory of cosmological perturbations and its quantization
written even earlier than the Mukhanov and Chibisov stuff, look e.g.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1980ZhETF..79.1601L
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1980JETPL..31..596L
the essential ingredients of both Lukash and Mukhanov and Chibisov are basically the same as far as I am aware of although the models themselves are of course different. I do see ANY reason why one guy (M) should have more credits than another (L) for a quite similar job made just a bit later. That Mukhanov and Chibisov paper has received much more citations is, in my opinion, just a result of an aggressive self-promotion of M., which has nothing to do with science. Since the originality of this particular his result is rather questionable from my point of view it would be quite interesting to learn what ELSE has he done?

Sorry for English, in Cambridge at the moment..

cheers!

Edited at 2017-03-25 08:01 pm (UTC)
sergepolar
Mar. 25th, 2017 08:20 pm (UTC)
не могу по сути что-то возразить - надо лучше владеть материалом, а это сильно не моя область.
Но никогда не слышал ни от кого из космологов (нашим или не наших) что-то в этом духе.
pbi20
Mar. 25th, 2017 09:05 pm (UTC)
Now you've heard it :) Actually, this history is well known in certain circles :) But, the general public doesn't care much since people do not normally bother whose names are attached to scientific results. However, we as professionals should be quite careful with situations like this. Note that I didn't claim that Mukhanov had stolen something, perhaps they had been working independently on this or may be communicated in one way or another, recollections of the participants are rather subjective and it's difficult to
make a solid opinion on the ethical side of the story. But, the basic stuff like gauge independent Lagrangian theory of the scalar mode of cosmological perturbations, its canonical quantization, the possibility of creation of phonons by an evolving gravitational field are all present in the Lukash papers, you may check if you like.. I can't remember whether he has the flat
spectrum from inflationary like models, but this was obtained by many other
people as well using less accurate formalism, including Hawking, Starobinsky
and some others (can't remember at the moment)..

sergepolar
Mar. 25th, 2017 09:15 pm (UTC)
Спасибо.
Сейчас со временем совсем швах.
Но историю я, безусловно, запомню хорошо, и как будет возможность посмотрю, и попробую знакомым космологам подсунуть, чтобы узнать мнение.
pbi20
Mar. 25th, 2017 09:25 pm (UTC)
Sure :) anyhow, I am going to read only mode as well, also quite short on time and will spend the whole of tomorrow in buses and trains, going to some town to
meet some friends, a very inconvenient trip from Cambridge.. Greetings to
the people in GAISH, I'll turn up there in April..
sergepolar
Mar. 25th, 2017 09:27 pm (UTC)
See you then.